Neumann, G.R.L. – Rosenthal, S. 1869 (1)




Results
 
Name   Edo    Dev.   Score  /  Games 
Neumann, Gustav    2670 (46) 2.5/
Rosenthal, Samuel    2514 (46) 1.5/
 
Status: formal

Event table notes

Event data
Place: Paris
Start date: Jan. 1869
End date: Feb. 1869
 
Notes:
Feenstra Kuiper and Di Felice give the total score of 3 matches between these two players in 1869 as +12-2=8 for Neumann. Negele's website says they played only two matches, and the definitive biography by Renette and Zavatarelli gives only two, of which this was the first. La Grande Storia degli Scacchi gives a result of +3-1=1 for Neumann, which is correct according to Renette and Zavatarelli as well as La Stratégie (15 Feb. 1869, p.43), though the final game was forfeited by Rosenthal, and so not included for rating purposes. The Round Table of 13 Feb. 1869 (p.109) reports from the London Weekly Dispatch that the match had started. Renette and Zavatarelli say that the most likely date for the first game was 12 Jan. 1869, though they say that it cannot be dated 'with exactitude'.
 
References
Books
   Di Felice, Chess Results, 1747-1900, page 50
   Feenstra Kuiper, 100 Jahre Schachzweikämpfe, page 18
   Renette and Zavatarelli, Neumann, Hirschfeld and Suhle, page 307, 308
Periodicals
   [NBSZ], vol. 6, no. 1, Jan. 1869, page 32
   [NBSZ], vol. 6, no. 2, Feb. 1869, page 64
   [RT], vol. 9, no. 212, 13 Feb. 1869, page 109
   [Sis], vol. 3, no. 3, Mar. 1869, page 92
   [Str], vol. 3, no. 1, 15 Jan. 1869, page 20
   [Str], vol. 3, no. 2, 15 Feb. 1869, page 41, 43
   [Str], vol. 3, no. 4, 15 Apr. 1869, page 100
   [Str], vol. 3, no. 5, 15 May 1869, page 129
   [SZ], vol. 24, no. 4, Apr. 1869, page 111
Web
   Negele, Michael.  [Gustav Richard Ludwig Neumann]
   Sericano, C.  [I matches 1865/79]

Match information updated: 15 May 2025